The Seagraves Family

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Gilbert Seagraves, Jr.[1]

Male Abt 1822 -


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  • Name Gilbert Seagraves  [2
    • No other source has been found that mentions a Gilbert Seagraves, Junior, other than the mention in the biography of his brother, John Henderson Seagraves, in the "Biographical and Historical Memoirs of Northeast Arkansas" by Goodspeed Publishing Co., Chicago, 1889. It is possible that John miswrote and there was no Gilbert, Junior, or if there were, he died very young.
    • The Seagraves surname presented for this person is based on the dominant spelling found in the various records researched, but primarily on the name carved on the person's gravestone. HOWEVER, for the common variations of the Seagraves family name of which there are over 20, such as Cegrave(s) Segrave(s), Seagreave(s), Seegrave(s), Segrove(s), Seagrove(s), etc. all of which have been given the Seagraves spelling for clarity and ease of analysis.
      Certain variations are used so consistently within a family that they have been retained in this analysis, specifically, SAGRAVES (which also includes Sagrove(s)) and SEAGRAVE. Sagraves was adopted by the early settlers of eastern Kentucky about 1800. Seagrave was the version brought to Massachusetts by the John & Sarah Seagrave family who settled there about 1725.
      The Seagraves version is the most common found (about 39%) of all those found on the 1940 census.
      A discussion of the name spelling variations can be found on the Home Page of this website.
    Suffix Jr. 
    Born Abt 1822  North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    • No other source has been found that mentions a Gilbert Seagraves, Junior, other than the mention in the biography of his brother, John Henderson Seagraves, in the "Biographical and Historical Memoirs of Northeast AR" by Goodspeed Publishing Co., Chicago, 1889. It is possible that John miswrote and there was no Gilbert, Junior, or if there were, he died very young.
      Based on the spacing of ages of Gilbert and Sarah's other children I have assumed that this possible Gilbert, Jr. might have been born about 1822 before the family migrated from Anson Co., NC to Surry Co.
    Gender Male 
    Person ID I111  Seagraves Database
    Last Modified 31 Dec 2015 

    Father Gilbert Seagraves,   b. Abt 1797, North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 May 1887, Clay County, Arkansas Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 90 years) 
    Mother Sarah Wilson,   b. Abt 1796, North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 31 Dec 1885, Clay County, Arkansas Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 89 years) 
    Married Abt 1815 
    • It is not known where Gilbert and Sarah were married, but since he was noted as a resident of Anson County, NC in 1821, she may have been from that county and they may have possibly married there.
    Notes 
    • The Search for Gilbert's Father
      Numerous postings on the internet (and OneWorldTree) boldly state that the parents of Gilbert Seagraves are William and Polly. But the fact is, so far there is no reliable proof of Gilbert's parents. We want to change that. One of the long range goals of this website is to brainstorm and research to find proof of Gilbert's parents, so we would like to open up a discussion about what we know, where we look and how we get there. Here are our initial thoughts about how we begin.
      When was Gilbert Born? On the first census to record actual ages in 1850 Gilbert reported his age to be 53. On later censuses his age was always rounded: on the 1860 census he was 60; on the 1870 census he was 70; in 1880 he was 80. We think that it is more likely that the age he reported in 1850 was accurate which would make his birth year 1797. If that is true then his father, who was not likely to be less than 17 when Gilbert was born, must have been born no later than 1780. Assuming that Gilbert's father would have been no older than 47 (an arbitrary but reasonable date) when he was born, then the earliest date of birth for Gilbert's father would be 1750.
      Where is Gilbert's family most like to be found? Gilbert always reported his birthplace as North Carolina on the census, and everywhere he is found in the public records prior to 1842 is in North Carolina:
      1817 Birth of son William - NC
      1819 Birth of son Lewis - NC
      1821 Birth of alleged out of wedlock son - Wake Co NC
      1821 Bastardy Bond court record stating Gilbert had "removed to Anson County" NC
      1822 Birth of son Maxwell - NC
      1826 Birth of son Samuel - NC
      1827 Purchase of 100 acres of land - Ashe Co NC
      1828 Birth of son Henry - NC
      1830 Gilbert?s first appearance in the census records - Surry Co NC
      1832 Birth of son John Henderson - Surry Co NC
      1840 On census - Surry Co NC

      So, based on Gilbert's movements outlined above, we see that Gilbert spent much if not all of his early years in NC, mainly in western NC. However, we can't ignore the fact that he "removed" to Anson Co when slapped with a paternity suit, since that suggests he had family there.
      Where do we begin looking for Gilbert's Daddy? We believe that the logical place to start looking for Gilbert's parents is the list of Seagraves on the 1800 census for NC who had young male children in their household. If Gilbert were born in 1797, he would have been counted in the census age range of 0-9 years old - and that narrows our initial search to 6 Seagraves households:

      John Segraves of Anson County husband (former?) of Phoebe below
      Daniel Segraves of Montgomery County who was in Wake Co. in 1790
      Stephen Segraves of Wake County who married Prudence Sevils in Wake in 1795
      William Segraves of Wake County who married Leah Sealey in Wake in 1798 and lived in Montgomery Co. in 1840 and 1850
      John Segraves of Wake County several men named John appear in NC in this era
      Phoebe Segrave of Warren County [I believe that Phoebe was the wife (former?) of John Seagraves of Anson Co.]

      Please let us have your thoughts on what we've said here, and share any other information and ideas you might have about how to prove Gilbert's parentage.

      Jim Seagraves and Louanne Seagraves Love
    Family ID F24  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - Abt 1822 - North Carolina Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [BIOGRAPHICAL AND HISTO] 1889.
      Gilbert, Jr. is only mentioned in this biographical article about the Seegraves family in Clay County, Arkansas by his brother John Henderson Seegraves. No other record of his existence has been found, so he may have died very young or not existed at all.

    2. [S35] Biographical & Historical Memoirs of Northeast Arkansas, (Goodspeed Publishing Co., Chicago, IL, 1889).